Tuesday, August 30, 2005

disrobing depravity


"I grew up in a very typical Midwest Methodist home, where there wasn't a lot of hugging and kissing. My life has been a response to that." --Hugh Hefner, founder and CEO of Playboy Magazine.

You might say that our depravity expresses itself most clearly in how we either shift blame elsewhere for our actions or at least minimize our own contribution to what we've done. I know in my soul that when confronted with my absence of integrity, my first response is to look for a scapegoat, or to minimize the significance of my action. So depravity is kind of like the chameleon that wants to blend in and have everyone believe it isn't really there. It lurks; it slinks, but it doesn't want to be found.

4 Comments:

At 4:04 PM, Blogger Bonnie said...

Hefner's comment is similar to the reaction of one who goes to the doctor and is diagnosed with a cancerous tumor. "The cancer is a response to my genetic makeup." One might say. But do you not treat the cancer, no matter what the supposed cause may be?

It occurs to me that we get so accustomed to our own depravity that we don't really even notice it anymore. Like the Psalmist cries to God, "Search me, O God, and know my heart; try me and know my anxious thoughts; see if there be any hurtful way in me, and lead me in the everlasting way." (Ps 139:23-24). God must be allowed to exam us, seek out where we are ill, and purge the depravity from our lives. We are diseased, and the symptoms are so much a part of our physical make-up that often they must be pointed out to us before we are able to recognize them.

~Bonnie L.

 
At 6:19 PM, Blogger Patrick Lafferty said...

"We are diseased, and the symptoms are so much a part of our physical make-up that often they must be pointed out to us before we are able to recognize them."

so how do you foster a community whose members are willing to have such things "pointed out" to them and are willing to do the pointing out--but in a such a way that it doesn't devolve into a rebuke-fest where somehow love gets sacrificed for the sake of enforcing holiness? (sorry for the run-on) That's the kind of community we'd want, but one that continually eludes us.

 
At 9:47 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmm... I haven't even begun in my quest to answer that question. This is a huge issue. From my perspective, we want Biblical community (which I believe is a "correct" desire, derived from a healthy, Scriptural view) but what does that look like? How do you show tough love without being tough to love? Hebrews 10 asserts that we must "stimulate" (NASB) or "stir up" (ESV) one another toward love and good deeds (v. 24). While in verse 25 it says we are also to meet together and encourage.

My thought recently is that the answer may lie in the model proposed in Galatians. 5:22ff asserts the fruit of the Spirit, and our need to "live by the Spirit." I don't think it's coincidence that Paul follows this passage with instruction in 6:1 to restore, in a "spirit of gentleness" (referring back to 5:22?), those "caught in a trespass."

Paul repeatedly asserts that sanctification is both personal and corporate. But has anyone ever seen a working community model of corporate sanctification? What does this look like? Is the concept far too idealistic to actually work in a society steeped in post-modernity? The more that I try to work through this concept it seems I come up with far more questions than answers. Any thoughts that could help me out of my quandry?

 
At 10:10 AM, Blogger Fork said...

Actually, Patrick, that wasn't a run-on sentence. It was just long.

A run on sentence would be one like this can you see where this became a run-on sentence I'm sure you can.

I'm a little confused. From the post anyway, it seems to me that it's a matter of understanding why we do the things we do--then deciding whether or not we want to do something about it.

Now if you're talking about becoming (and I mean this in a good way) behavior police, well. That's tough because nowadays nobody wants to judge anybody else or be seen as a party pooper.

 

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